My attempt has been to cut down The Hobbit films to two films with an eye to good solid storytelling. I believe these films to be valuable gems suffering from bloated and boring scenes that bring down the entire narrative. I’ve cut only what I found unnecessary, unsatisfactory or needed to for coherence.
My source material were the Extended Editions with 5.1 surround sound to isolate dialogue wherever needed. I’ve done my best to make my edits seem as flawless as possible and I hope I will have succeeded in making it impossible to tell what I’ve changed without knowing the source material. DOWNLOADS: The first part of my duology has been finished. I am sharing a download link, counting on the honor system. If you wish to download my fan-edit, you should own the source-material: the Extended Bluray editions of An Unexpected Journey and Desolation of Smaug. - The Hobbit - Part I: An Unexpected Journey:- 360p (500MB) - 720p (1,82GB) - 1080p (6,39GB) - The Hobbit - Part II: There and Back Again: (coming soon-ish) Do leave some feedback on the, if you have any!
GENERAL CHANGES: - Prologue removed, but some shots used elsewhere, such as over the Misty Mountain song. - Azog has been visually cut from the first part of the duology.
- Sauron has been removed and Azog takes his place as the (still unseen) threat in Dol Guldur. I’ve replaced the references to a sorcerer in Dol Guldur with “The Defiler”. - No white council. - Kili-Tauriel-Legolas love triangle removed. - Everything related to the Nazgul has been removed because I want to cut the ridiculous Gandalf, Saruman and Galadriel fight-scene from BoFA. - Radagast has been removed. I would liked to have kept some of him, but it became obvious that I couldn’t keep him without forcing it, so he’s been cut altogether. - I’ve kept the cartoonish action scenes (Goblin escape and Barrel sequence), because although they take away any sense of real danger, I believe they are rather fun and creatively done.
The music of The Hobbit film series is composed and produced. Arkenstone Thorin's theme. In the extended edition of An Unexpected Journey and Barry Humphries. The Hobbit: The Desolation. Away the rock and finds a beautiful, glowing gem, the Arkenstone.] [Bilbo. An Unexpected Journey Movie Transcript.
However, if popular demand should ever urge me to recreate my cut without them, I’ll oblige. INSPIRATION: I’ve sometimes cross-referenced my edit with other fan-edits for inspiration. Though it has sometimes shown we came to the same ideas separately, at other times, I’ve been indebted to their creative decisions: The Dwarfed Edition, The Arkenstone Edition,, Into the Fire and The Tolkien Cut. I’ve endeavored to improve upon them though. SPECIFIC CHANGES: Opening: - Flashback, Prologue, Frodo and most of the “Hey, remember Lord of the Rings?”-moments removed.
Instead, Bilbo (though still addressing Frodo) jumps straight into his own story. Everything that’s important will be repeated and I want to get to the dwarves as soon as possible.
- When Bilbo opens his book, the drawing of his younger self has been digitally removed (not perfectly yet) so he seems to open it solely for writing in it. - Use of the “Old Friends”-song to accompany the beginning. - Use of sounds from sound libraries and FotR (ink dipping) to compensate for the ones that got lost while drowned in music.
Unexpected Company: - The drinking-burping part has been skipped. - After Balin says “It appears we have lost our burglar.” I’ve reversed a shot of Thorin looking at Bilbo and everything after that has been cut. - Some footage of opening flashback (slightly de-saturated) has been put in over and after the Misty Mountain song (when the theme is reiterated by violins). Inspired by the There and Back Again-cut.
- When they leave the shire we go straight to the farmstead where we will meet the trolls. The first night (including the Azog & Thorin backstory and the orc spying on them), the conversation in the rain about wizards and Radagast’s first introduction have been cut. Roast Mutton: - When Thorin mentions being betrayed by the elves, we see that part of the flashback (slightly desaturated).
Imitated from There and Back Again-cut. - One frame has been cut from Ori throwing his slingshot to logs being dropped, making it feel more fluent. - Talk of parasites and the ridiculous “We don’t have parasites” - “Yes we do!” part has been skipped. - Radagast cut. A Short Rest: - Used the shot with the waterfall (from whey they leave Rivendell) to make a smoother transition into the hidden valley. Because the sound of the waterfall was drowned in music, I used a different waterfall-sound as background noise.
- Used the Hidden Valley-song to bridge the gap. - Trimmed the elves circling around the dwarves - After Elrond arrives and greets Gandalf, we cut straight to them having dinner. (Removed a subtitle that’s fading in). - Put the dwarves eating in front of Elrond asking about the blades.
- Cut out Thorin’s refusal to share the map with Elrond. Instead that scene begins with Elrond inspecting the map ( imitated from Kerr’s Arkenstone Edition). - White Council cut entirely. - Azog’s weathertop-scene cut.
- After Elrond says Gandalf is not the only guardian of middle earth, we cut to Gandalf’s conversation with Galadriel about supporting Thorin and Bilbo giving him courage. Galadriel is deprived a more obvious entrance, but I hope Elrond’s lead in will suffice to explain her presence. - Gandalf talking about Bilbo gave me the opportunity to make a match-cut to him looking at the Rivendell he’s leaving behind. This scene goes over into them walking, rather than cutting to the Gandalf-Galadriel scene that now comes before it. Over Hill and Under Hill: - The walking shot with the waterfall-shot was cut (as mentioned previously).
- Stone Giants removed. As soon as Bilbo loses his footing, we skip to the part afterwards, where Bilbo falls.
(Imitated from The Arkenstone Edition, though I placed Thorin’s “We need to find shelter!” a bit later). - Cut another one of Azog’s “I’m coming after you.” shots.
- To make the transition to them sleeping more smoothly, I used the lightning sound from Azog’s outside scene and made it sound like it’s coming from outside the cave they rest in instead. - Shortened the dwarves fall to make it less ridiculous. - Cut out The Goblin King’s talk of Azog. Riddles in the Dark: - Kept every single frame of Gollum. Out of the Frying Pan into the Fire: - Digitally removed Azog from the first shot of the wargs.
Not entirely flawlessly, but easy to miss. - Imitated and even lifted parts from the There and Back Again-cut to remove Azog and let it be suggested via voice-over that the eagles dropped them at Beorn’s home. However, I made Gandalf dialogue sound more from afar to match better with the eagle-shots and I’ve also made color-correction some of them to make it night, which made for a cleaner transition. Queer Lodgings: - Used the Extended Edition scene with Beorn where they each come out in pairs.
- After Beorn pours some milk, we skip ahead to avoid the Azog-dialogue. - I’ve kept Beorn’s lines about these lands crawling with orcs to foreshadow the climax-attack during the battle sequence. - Used the Extended Edition scene where Beorn talks about orcs gathering in Dol Guldur, but replaced “the sorcerer” with “The Defiler”. I’ve used the word from where it has elsewhere been cut while still matching the tone of voice. This worked much better than anticipated as you never see their lips anyway.
- I generally trimmed the EE-conversation between Beorn and Gandalf down to remove all references to the orcs chasing them (that aren’t anymore) as well as specific references to Sauron or Ringwraiths. Re-ordered some shots for a smoother transition. Flies and Spiders: - Cut Dwalin’s line about there being no sign of the orcs and reordered the shots to use a more menacing one when Bilbo says “This forest feels sick.” - Cut the weird Galadriel telepath-exposition.
- Used the Extended Edition version for Mirkwood, though I’ve cut the white stag, trimmed their walking and color-corrected the last part to match the blue-ish hue of the rest of this sequence. - Cut Bilbo seeing himself. - Added a little bit of red into the shots when Bilbo is looking from atop the trees. Somehow that makes the shot more believable for me. - Bilbo losing his ring and killing the baby-spider removed.
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Barrels out of Bond: - Once everyone is inside and the Elven gate closes, we skip them walking to and being put into their prison cells. We go straight to the shot of Dwalin thrusting his cell-door.
( Imitated from There and Back Again cut) - Removed the interaction between Tauriel, Kili and Legolas. No weird love-triangles or trouser-jokes in this cut!
- Added a shot of the Arkenstone when Thranduil talks about it. The shot has been reversed to lift from the king to the jewel. - Removed the talk of Legolas fancying Tauriel, but used her last shot (reversed) when she looks sad to end the scene with. Now it’s because of Thranduil’s refusal to care for the world outside, which was the point of this scene anyway. - I’ve left in the beginning of the exchange between Tauriel and Kili about his runestone. It humanizes both camps to one another, but without any infatuation or sociopathic stares from Legolas.
- Kept the entire barrel-escape sequence although I removed Tauriel looking upset at Kili being wounded - Removed the worst of the GoPro-shots. - Removed Gandalf’s visit to the High Fells. - Added the scene where Thranduil interrogates the orc (would normally come after Bard), but cut him mentioning the morgul-poison in Kili’s wound and The One (Sauron). Orcs are gathering for a war over Erebor, that’s all we need.
- We end on Bard after Balin asks whether his boat is available for hire. I’ve added a softer version of the dramatic cliffhanger sound of Desolation of Smaug. Credits: - Removed Elijah Wood & Christopher Lee and put in Luke Evans & Evangeline Lilly instead. - Put in my own (user)name next to the editor as fan-editor. - Put the end-scene from An Unexepcted Journey (where Smaug opens his eye) behind the credits.
I’ve also made posters for my duology as I’m planning to burn them on bluray to stand alongside their official counterparts.
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Our reddit friends include: • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • Non-reddit links (gasp!) include: • • • • • • • • • • •. So I'm going to use the Extended Blu Rays as my source material and edit the films into (hopefully) two films. I am not a Hobbit purist, so I'm going to keep in the Dol Guldur storyline. I am, however, a Tolkien purist (to some degree) and I like actual physics and danger. Some of the changes I am going to implement: • Remove the scenes where dwarves fall hundreds of feet with no injuries / deaths; Legolas running up falling bricks; extended, gratuitous fight scenes that look like wrestling matches • Remove the love between Elf and Dwarf. Going to try to make it a friendship, instead.
I believe the cut between the two movies was where Balin says 'Is that boat for hire?' Up until that point, Gandalf's subplot is done developing, Bard is a 'mystery man', the orcs are still in pursuit, Legolas and Tauriel have their concluding scene, and everything is 'wrapped up' nicely. After that point, they reintroduce the Orc chase, introduce Bard, and see the mountain, thus reminding viewers of their quest. OP, if you cut it down to two films (which is probably best, it would fit thematically for two films. After Laketown, it's a whole different film, musically and palate-wise), the cut should be right after Balin asks Bard for a ride. It hints at the future, and the next ten minutes are reintroductions for characters and motives. Also, keep that talk between Gandalf and Thorin at Bree (the opening to DoS).
It's in the book, and they say really good things. Possibly where Bilbo says 'Gandalf told us to meet him here!' , or even at the start of the second movie you make. In DoS, then you can layer some of that dialogue into a shortened version of Thorin's 'drowning-in-dragon-sickness' scene. Also, keep that talk between Gandalf and Thorin at Bree (the opening to DoS).
It's in the book, and they say really good things. Is that scene really necessary? I'd say it prime candidate for the cutting room floor.
Imho it just re-establishes character motivations that are shown elsewhere in the film. It may be a useful re-introduction for the audience for a second movie, but in cutting it down to two movies I saw it could be dropped.
Or move it to the start of the new second movie (which as discussed would probably start just after they meet Bard). I guess it would fit there.and serve its purpose as a re-introduction. I'm not a filmmaker or editor, but just some thoughts. Okay my friend I am really stoked that some had this idea as well, I literally just created a reddit account to help or provide assistance in this. I would love to see part of our vision come to life but unfortunately I haven't got the resources to do this but here's my idea for a 2 part.